Summary: A guy dares to go into a junkyard to get an LG Dare phone guarded by dogs.
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[Ha] So no dog should ever be portrayed as a junkyard dog. So basically you're for censorship rather than any type of light that may cast dogs in a bad light. be reflected in film, regardless of the genre. My only experience with a pit was my brother's dog, and he was a very gentle dog with other people, but that didn't negate the power that he had. I'm sure not all Pits are as nice, just like any breed there is variation among individuals. But unlike the oft mentioned daschund a pit bull can kill easily. Give it up people Pit Bulls are know for being the extremely powerful and potentially dangerous, and they will always do so. This commercial had no intent to demonize pit bulls, they just were showing mean looking dogs... nothing you will ever do.. EVER will keep people from being scared from Pit Bull looking dogs, and as long as they are they will be used as such in the media.
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[HA] Puckhead, how often do labs kill. That's the issue. If most bites are serious it's not as big of a deal. A bite of unknown severity and death are completely different ballparks
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[Betty] I am very upset by this ad. For one it has APBT as vicious and chained. Just the whole ad is upsetting using dogs that way. Don't really care if what breed. I am sure they could have come up with another way to be daring. Bunge jump over a bridge or something.
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[Yes] You guys a are losers its a commercial that had nothing to do with a stereotype GET OVER IT SHIT. Bunch of bitches!!!!!!!!
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[Galen] Are these comments supposed to be about the ad? A lot of first-time posts are verbal attacks against those commenting rather than comments about the ad. "Bunch of bitches?" What's with that, among other name-calling? Why so angry at those who are upset with the ad?
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[Sign this] Please sign...
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/make-verizon-accountable
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[z] Trent- you are a sad, sad little man.
Deadly does not equal vicious killer. A gun can kill too, but it's the person behind the gun pulling the trigger that kills, not the gun. Your so called "Pits" and any other dog, kills because of human error and ignorance, not because they were bred to kill (which they are not unless it's by an ignorant horrible person). Not to mention that there are 10+ other dogs listed as most aggressive canines above "pitbulls."
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[anonymous] so no one knows who the guy is? lol
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[MichelleD] While I find this forum to have become nothing more than a place to name call and use bad language, please don't call me names or use bad language if you respond to my post. I found the add to be in poor taste, mostly because of the use of pit-bulls, but also because of my inability to even really understand what it was for. I hate when commercials don't just come out and try to tell you what it is they are selling. I am the owner of a pit-mix, and I do know that she has the propensity towards dog aggression, which is why I introduce her to other dogs very slowly, and am constantly watching her body language because I would never want a situation to be out of my control. I love my pitty mix, but if she ever, ever, ever, showed even a glimmer of human aggression, even to someone coming in to rob my house, I would have her humanely euthanized. They were originally bred to be dog aggressive, but never to be human aggressive. That is a genetic flaw, and one that should never be tolerated. While I fully understand why people have become afraid of pit type dogs, those of us who are proponents of the breed just hate to see that fear perpetuated by ad agencies who haven't done their research. Look I posted without one bit of profanity, or calling any one a name. Yay me.
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[Trent] Z:
I never once stated that Pit Bulls were bred to kill PEOPLE. I said that they were created to fight/kill in dog fights. It WAS there purpose... like it or not.
I could really care less how "aggressive" a Dachshund is. That is like comparing apples and oranges.
Guns and dogs... you cannot compare them at all. Guns cannot jump your fence and go out and make their own decisions. Guns don't kill on their own. It takes a person to do that. Guns and dogs should NEVER be compared to each other unless you are talking about the fact that there is a group of idiots out there that think they should be banned.
Oh... and I'm not little. I'm actually quite large. I do get sad sometimes though.
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[Sara] "I hate when commercials don't just come out and try to tell you what it is they are selling." I was just thinking the same thing. Yesterday, when I was explaining what happens in the commercial to another person it occurred to me that the man was DARE-ing to jump the fence. The phone is a DARE! So, let's look at Verizon's potential for sales in showing this spot: (1) A number of people are offended by this commercial and (2) don't get the point it is attempting to make.
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[MichelleD] It also took me explaining the commercial to my husband to realize that the guy was being DAREing. Stupid advert.
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[alice] the guy on the commercial is so hott!!!!!
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[Sara] I notice some posters seem to suggest that a smaller breed's bite is somehow different from a larger breed's bite as far as damage to the peron. My daughter who has a pit mix was feeding her dog and her landlord's dog Chloe (picture Disney's shaggy dog only smaller) when Chloe attacked. My daughter, fearing Chloe might be injured, interrupted the fight and was bit by Chloe. Even though the puncture wound was small she went to the ER. Long story short, Chloe's bite gave her a blood infection and five days and thousands of dollars later she was out of the hospital with a catheter for IV antibiotics. You may have guessed that the landlord was a jerk and evicted her shortly thereafter.
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[Carrie] Rats - this stupid commercial just interrupted "Seinfeld" on TBS. I had hoped it would stop airing by now.
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[Galen] vcm@cnn.com - send comments to Turner Broadcasting
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[Sara] Big fan of Seinfeld. No fan of this commercial. Will send comments to TBS.
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[michele] Looks like I'm sticking with Sprint. I find this commercial in very poor taste. Shame on Verizon!
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[h] i'm glad it wasn't just me who was uncomfortable and appalled with this commercial, shame shame.
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[Trent] MichelleD and Sara... If it took you that long to figure out the premise of the commercial... you should probably steer shy of technology all together.
And Sara... are you seriously going to compare an infection to being mauled by ANY large dog... Pit Bull or not? I mean holy crap...
Maybe you should look at this...
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4155221a10.html
Or this...
http://www.trauma.org/index.php/main/image/567/C4
Or maybe you could just do your own research before you compare a small/medium dog's "aggression" to a large dog's "damage". I'm sorry about your daughter getting bit and having to deal with an infection (that can be dangerous). Something about having your flesh torn from your body and your facial structure being crushed by a large dog... seems to outweigh your comment though. Maybe it is just me.
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[Sara] Dear Trent, the technology comment stung but I do admit to some clever ads going over my head. Thank you for your sympathy concerning my daughter's dog bite. I hadn't thought about the accident until this post. Having a blood infection is serious. The doctor couldn't figure out what antibiotics to use, hence the 5-day hospital stay. Her hand kept swelling and I neglected to mention the cellulitis. This happened during midterms and she was extremely upset. A lot of her pain resulted from the PICC line (catheter) insertion into the tip of her heart. I am so grateful that she didn't die. And she wasn't disfigured or crushed. My comment about damage to the person was meant to mean death. I have seen horrific photos of victims of animal bites in the past and I don't mean to diminish that aspect of large dog bites. When I get up enough courage, I'll look at your links.
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[Trent] Sara: the two links I posted are not of dead victims of dog attacks. They are of people that were attacked, but survived. Although they are graphic.
Did your daughter finish her mid-terms? Dog bites can be nasty and infectious! I can't remember how many times I was told while I was growing up "a dogs mouth is so clean... ". Maybe those people never noticed their dog licking it's own ass. :-)
Human bites can be very very infectious too. I have a friend that almost lost his hand from gash in his hand from a human mouth. (happened during a fist fight)
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[Heather] I must say, I don't approve of this commercial, either, but I can kind of see where Trent and Verizon are coming from.
Pitbulls, we must admit, are far more capable of causing damage than other breeds because of their strength. I concede this point, but I do not believe that pit bulls are inherently fighters because that is what they are bred to be. I choose to judge each dog, individually, rather than as a whole breed. Yes, I've come across nasty pits, even been attacked at the shelter where I work, but I've also been attacked by a shih tzu. I've also read that little dogs attack as "frequently" as pitbulls, the attacks just aren't reported because they are a.) not as severe and b.)some people are embarrassed by having been attacked by a little dog.
I also have to mention that pit bulls are not inherently dog aggressive, either. Please judge each individual dog, not the breed. It just so happens that BAD RAP has rehabilitated quite a few of Michael Vick's former fighting dogs and a bunch of them are currently living in homes with other dogs/pitties.
As for the commercial, I don't think it's shameful for them to have used pits; I don't think a border collie would have gotten their point across. If it wasn't a pit, it would have been another big dog that appears to be scary and we'd be in the same boat trying to defend them. Also, chain dogs happen. It's a fact of life. I, like most of you, wish that it didn't, but it does. And most chained dogs are aggressive, due to lack of socialization
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[Heather] P.S. Sorry about the double post! Don't know how it happened.
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[Marla] Just one more good reason not to carry a Verizon phone. Let me guess, the next ad will use Mick Vick as their new spokesperson.
It's not simply the fact that the company used a breed that has enough problems shaking a bad rap thanks human stupidity, but the chains and the whole junkyard thing just gives the idea that they are okay with animals being treated poorly.
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[MichelleD] Trent: I do agree that I felt a little dumb that it took me that long to figure out the "Dare" thing...Duh. And thanks for taking a look around the pitbull chat forum, I think it was gutsy of you and the picture you posted of your friends dog is beautiful.
Heather: I have to disagree with you in that pitbulls are inherently dog aggressive. Anyone who owns one, or has at least done some research knows that. As responsible owners we should always be looking out for the signs of aggression and by aware of our dogs body language so it can be curbed before it starts. Any dog interactions should be well supervised even with dogs that live in the same household.
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[Sara] Yes, thank you, my daughter got through her midterms. The PICC line is out and she only has scars on her hand. Sorry to get off topic. I actually watched the commercial again and thought about what kind of dog I would have rather seen. Maybe a mixed breed with no discernible characteristics.
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[Terry Robertson] It is appalling and extremely disappointing that a company such as verizon would choose to depict innocent Dogs in such a horrific manner, it is disgusting!! Are you aware of just how many Dogs die each day at the hands of such ignorant people who will view your commercial as justification for continuing to CHAIN their Dogs and or put them in a dirty junkyard to “guard” their “possessions”???? The fact they are chained up in the place they are supposed to be guarding also is about as ridiculous as anything I have seen!
In view of the recent Michael Vick disaster I would have thought the people in Verizon who are responsible for drawing attention to your products would have had more sympathy for the plight of innocent suffering animals who depend upon humans to keep them safe or at least been better educated about the ABUSE you are condoning!!!! It is NOT cool and certainly NOT cute, it can only enhance the thought that those in charge of Verizon are indeed uneducated, evil people who only care about the oh mighty dollar!!!! Is that the perception you wish the public to have of your company?
I plead with you to remove this disgusting commercial to let the public know you are not inhumane after all but somehow a mistake was made by placing this VERY ugly commercial in connection with your company!!!
There are millions of Dog loving people out there who certainly use phones, if you think this will make them want to use verizon you are extremely wrong, it will do completely the opposite!!!!
Disappointed beyond belief,
Terry Robertson
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[Tina Tenney] Speaking as someone who has owned pit bull terriers & worked in pit bull rescue for 10 years I find this commercial repulsive. Those of us that know & love the breed are sick to death of these ridiculous stereotypes. Shame on you Verizon. Innocent dogs die everyday because these myths are perpetuated by people & companies like you. Just disgusting.
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[MDpitmom] To Trent & the rest of the "haters"- Petey never bit Buckwheat !
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[Trent] MDpitmom... hhahaha. What about Spanky?
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[Gee.] What a stupid commercial. Me thinks a MAJOR donation to a pit bull rescue is in order for these assholes. Fuck.
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[Susan] I canceled my Verizon AND returned my LG DARE after seeing this commercial. The chained dogs and adding to the false stigma of this beleaguered pit breed is inexcusable.
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[MichelleD] Trent is not a hater.
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[Abby] This is a terrible commercial,after all that is going on with dog fighting this was a very poor choice.
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[Terri] I have just viewed this and find it a poor representation of pit bulls. I rescued a starving female last year and she is one of the sweetest dogs you will ever met. I find this very offensive and a poor representation at best.
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[Death] I dont see the big deal with the commercial. From reading the comments you guys are acting like after seeing this commercial the whole world is looking at pitbulls in a different way after seeing this phone commercial when most people just do not care and see that the guy is going through and obstacle to get to the phone. Everyone needs to just get over it because this is a useless and pointless argument over a commercial. It seems that you guys are trying to convince yourselves that they are not vicious dogs because you own one. How do you guys think that people who have lost an animal do to an attack from a dog from this breed. All i can say is Get over it ^_^. Sorry if i offended any dog lovers ;/
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[Vicky] PLEASE cut this commercial asap, it is very offensive to dog lovers and especially to owners of pit bulls. Pit bulls are not vicious by nature, only if chained and taught to attack will they do so. Your advertising agency must be out of touch with todays world views. Why don't you try using the wonderful agency that is employed by Target - whoever they are, they do fabulous commercials.
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[Jimmy Porter] This ad would have had more impact with the use of a miniature poodle, if a dog had to be used at all. A pit bull is a formidable animal, but when put on a chain it is down right dangerous. These dogs are good pets when shown lots of love as is any dog, but why stereotype the pit bull. Would not the German Shepherd; a Great Dane; a Doberman work just as well and without that damn chain too. For every owner that chains up their dog, they too should have a chain around their neck; nothing to do all day long but sleep; no exercise; no loving touches. I will not purchase from this company anything that it sell because it misrepresents a breed of dog. They have wasted money on me.
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[DoTheRightThing] Why is the guy Hispanic this commercial is feeding to a racial stereotype saying that all Mexicans steal. Not all of us steal this is outrageous. How come every time someones stealing something in a commercial they have 2 be black or Hispanic? White people steal 2. White guys stole my i pod.
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[Crybaby] You guys are still crying about this commercial? Its NOT REAL and in no way stereotypes the dog. I did not even know they were pit bulls until i seen this bitch fest. Crying over a commercial that has no meaning what so every. GET OVER YOURSELVES. If your so sick of this commercial then dont watch it. Make your own commercial of you guys making out with your dogs. ^^
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[kimmimc] This commercial shows chained Pit Bulls. It's horrible and Verizon should be ashamed of themselves. If this is not pulled immediately, the smart, compassionate customers will take their business elsewhere.
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[Galen] Crybaby,
Do you make you make with everything you like or do you only like what you make out with? I don't get why you are attacking people for commenting on the ad - that's the reason for this site, right? If this bothers you why are you here? Don't read it.
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[Crybaby] If the commercial showed a dog that was chained that you did not own would that make you idiots shut the fuck up cause you guys are idiots lol.
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[Carrie] I don't own a pitt. The commercial bothers my family and me because it shows inhumane treatment of animals, among other stereotypes.
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[Crybaby] Cry me a river who cares dogs on chains thats a huge deal. This will go down in history books everywhere Verizon make a commercial with dogs in chains there so horrible.
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[Sara] I Googled to find this site to see if anyone else was offended by this commercial. I did not expect to see so many people here with similar opinions. Verizon absolutely has the right to make and show this commercial and I have the right to dislike it. I've signed one petition and commented to TBS and Verizon.
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[Danii] Oh look at the vicious pitbull... again.
Like the fucking media haven't bashed them enough. I wish people would leave our dogs alone and stop making them to be these horrible animals!
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[Delma S. Fleming, Ph.D.] What a disgrace of a commercial!
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[Sara] My opinion only (Verizon and everyone else is welcome to their own opinion): Keep making humorous and informative commercials, I've enjoyed almost every one of them especially the Dead Zone ones. Do some research on anti-BSL groups and be knowledgable about the number of people that will be offended by stereotypical portrayals of pit bulls. Decide to market the LG Dare in such a manner that people will want to buy the phone. I took my trained, non-cropped, pit-mix for a walk yesterday and whiles there's a good chance the other dog walker with child and stroller hadn't seen the Verizon commercial (and, yes, it probably was my imagination) he did not respond to my hello and shielded his child while we passed.
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Summary: A guy dares to go into a junkyard to get an LG Dare phone guarded by dogs.
