Summary: A guy dares to go into a junkyard to get an LG Dare phone guarded by dogs.
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[The pit bull wife] First off i agree that pit bulls CAN be vicious dogs. However, dogs like that are a result of poor pet ownership. yes they can be dog-agressive,so yes, it is recommended not to take them in public unleashed, but that is completely unfair to call them "vicious, horrible creatures" If pit bulls were not cuddly dogs and good family dogs, why do so may people have them?
If you believe that people are spewing bullshit when trying to defend something they believe in and love so much, keep your fucking opinion to yourself. youre not going to change our minds. you can all go fuck yourselves as well for trying to push your opinions down others throats. Believe what you want but dont tell all the pit bull lovers to give up a fight they believe in.
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[Trent] The Pit Bull: I didn't get the 2007 statistics from the HSUS you assumptive asshole.
If you would have actually READ any of my posts you would have seen that I am married... so I guess you are right there... I don't have a girlfriend. If you had paid attention you would have read that I have SAVED pit bulls.
You fucking morons... I AM NOT AGAINST PIT BULLS.
Stop fucking lying to others and to yourselves! They are dangerous dogs and it is actually you damned morons that give them a bad name because you so firmly believe that they are NOT dangerous and do not take the precautions to protect THE DOGS from situations that allow them to be involved in dog bit related human deaths.
It is you fuckers that should be held responsible when a death occurs. Not the dogs.
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[the pit bull] ya know trent, i'm still trying to figure you out man. you are completely contradicting yourself the more you post. you are saying that pit bulls are responsible for oh so many human deaths, yet you are are now saying that humans are at fault. the fact that you have rescued and raised pit bulls and love them so much definately adds to it. you gonna pick a side here or just keep blowing smoke up everyone's asses? in any case, i'm done with this thread, as it's clear that the ad will most likely be pulled, and fighting with a twit like trent is like asking helen keller to be a city tour guide... it's just pointless and won't get you anywhere
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[anonymous] Anyone know the name of the actor?
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[Trent] The pit bull wife: Keep my opinion to myself??? This is a public fucking forum. What would be the point of this little "Add Comment" box down here at the bottom of the page without opinions??
I'm not saying to stop the good fight. I'm all for it. I'm just tired of Pit Bull fanatics lying to themselves and to everyone else.
Can be dog-aggressive??? Lady, they ARE dog aggressive. Try denying that and you are a completely naive person.
I'm NOT saying that Pit Bulls are vicious. I don't believe that they are. But when things do go wrong and a pit bull is involved... sorry, but there is much devastation. They are tenacious dogs.
I love Pit Bulls!!!! They are still the dog that is attributed with the highest percentage of human death almost EVERY DAMN YEAR. Get real. Pit Bull owners have a special responsibility with controlling their dogs.
I DO NOT WANT TO SEE ANY DOG ON A BSL LIST!
Hone up to the damn facts though people and quit trying to polish a turd. It is what it is.
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[Trent] the pit bull: Humans are at fault. Dogs that bite and kill usually have an owner. Sometimes it is they themselves that get killed. Ultimately it is their responsibility to control their dog and keep it in a safe environment. If owners would do that... we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
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[Trent] I've stirred the pot here enough today. Time to go do something constructive. To the people that misunderstand me... well,... what can I say, we don't agree.
I'm sure I'll come back to this little thread later though. It is interesting to say the least.
And by the way, i don't generally use profanity on public forums. I only resorted to that when I received it from other posters. I apologize for doing that.
Go Pit Bulls! (I mean that sincerely)
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[the pit bull wife] i meant to not shove your fucking opinion down others throats if you cant take the rebuttle.and i wasnt denying that they were dog-agressive. you seriously need to get off your ass and do something with your fucking life instead of sitting on your ass and fighting with everyone on here. we all know how you feel at this point,based on all the fucking things you have posted. Not to mention my post wasnt directed at you. but this one is. so for fucks sake, get a life. let people speak their piece without getting in their faces. i think you have said enough already
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[Trent] the pit bull wife: Dear hypocrite... you are on the same website as I am, so to tell me to get a life is asinine.
You did "deny" that they are dog-aggressive. You said they "can" be dog aggressive. I said they ARE dog-aggressive. Shit, all dogs "can" be dog aggressive. There is a huge difference between CAN and ARE.
If you weren't such a close minded cunt you would see that I have posted my love for the breed throughout my posts.
I am a realist though, and you are completely in denial or you absolutely refuse to believe anything other that what you accept as reality.
Every single person on this little thread has contributed to it in their own way. To tell me "to get off your ass and do something with your fucking life" should be directed at each and every person on this thread, including yourself since you have decided to come on here and offer nothing to the conversation worthwhile.
Wake up to reality. Actually READ my posts. I've not posted anything other that what is fucking factual and REAL. I get my information from unbiased sources, and A LOT of it comes from bulldog websites and bulldog rescues. So you can kiss my fucking ass biatch. I'm not shoving ANYTHING down anyone elses throats. I'm only stating my fucking opinion, which is guaranteed to me by our fucking Constitution.
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[Mike] I feel that this commercial is VERY VERY wrong, and should not be displayed at all. First off, its wrong to chain a dog to a car and leave it in the sun all day. Second of all, the commercial leaves more of a message about pit bulls than the phone!! My family myself has a pit bull, and she is THE sweetest thing on earth. It is not the way they act naturally, but the way you train them. Pit bulls are VERY VERY misunderstood, and if trained right, can be the best dog in the whole world. This commercial is wrong and should be put off the TV stations it is currently on.
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[PitBullowner] This ad is atrocious! Please, tell Verizon that this ad must be pulled! Call Brenda Raney 1-908-559-7518!
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[Pitbullowner] Trent..your stats come from the CDC fatal book. The "breed" listed is PIT BULL TYPE, not PIT BULL which would be the American Pit Bull Terrier. Pit Bull TYPE means that is resembles a pit bull, not that is IS one.
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[Pitbullowner] And for anyone that thinks you can train a pit bull to be human aggressive, you are wrong. Human aggression displayed by the pit bull is a GENETIC fault and those dogs should be humanely euthanized. It's not always 'how you raise them' Backyard breeding is destroying the pit bull and you can't love poor genetics out of a dog. Luckily, human agression in the pit bull is still exceedingly rare.
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[screwtrenthesucks] "pit bull" is not a breed, the APBT,however, is. TRENT, you should do some research. APBT's are for dog fighting not people fighting, genius. I have one, he is not aggressive towards people at all. This ad only adds fuel to the animal hating fire. It is sick, and disgusting, and only perpetuates a negative stereotype, I, and my dog already fight. What is up with the "pitbull" holocaust? NAZIZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[Crybaby] Crystal....i was not talking about bites i was talking about how many people have been killed from pitbull attacks. And second i just want to understand why a commercial about a freaking dog guarding something can turn into a bunch of people crying over nothing. Its 2 TRAINED DOGS ACTING(meaning its fake for everyone on here) TO BE GUARD DOGS. THATS ALL IT IS. The dogs got their treats and water before and after the commercial was done. And the commercial is not portraying all pit bulls as being vicious dogs its portraying them as loyal guard dogs who are watching over something. But it dose not matter cause no matter what the commercial was about you guys are going 2 complain anyways cause there's a dog in a commercial and you want something to bitch and complain about just to make yourself feel better because you SERIOUSLY have nothing else worth while to do. I wish you guys would put this much effort in current real life events that are going on in America such as gas prices and the war. And one more thing YOU DOGS DON'T GIVE A RATS BOOTY ABOUT THIS COMMERCIAL THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW IT EXIST. They do not even know that you guys are crying over something so minor. Do all of you sit in front of your televisions 24/7 waiting for a dog commercial to come up so you can bitch and cry about it SERIOUSLY.
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[Crybaby] P.S Trent is the man!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[Michele] Pitbullowner: I agree with you. Human agression is not acceptable with this breed at all. You can thank you BYBs for that one. Oh Trent: BYB means: backyard breeder.
Crybaby: you dont get it. The commercial puts this breed in a negative light.
As far as the phone in the commercial, what phone? where? The commercial was in very poor taste.
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[Trent] Michele: According to your logic this commercial would put ANY breed in a negative light. Baby, since the existence of man and beast dogs have been protecting property.
Pitbullowner: I don't know what the hell the CDC is, so no, that is not where I got my information.
Some of you people are such fanatics and blinded by your "fight" that you will deny anything negative about this breed of dog. Stand up and accept the attributes or your breed of choice. YOU have chosen a breed that by today's ethical standards should have never been created. Dog fighting is a brutal, disgusting fucking sport and THAT is the only reason the pit bull even exists today. Yeah, it probably sucks to be a pit bull fanatic right now. A lot of people don't like them. The general public is scared of them. As they fucking should be.
Stop denying the public facts. The deaths related to pit bulls are undeniable and you fanatics that continue to be blind to this will be the cause of the ban of your dogs. Accept responsibility and develop some ownership standards that places the entire responsibility for the dog squarely on the owner's shoulders. I say this for ALL breeds, not just the APBTs, AMStaff,s and Stafforshire Bull Terriers. Every breed of dog.
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[trusport] Whatever ad agency chose this breed for this commercial should be chastized, brutally! This commercial is a disgrace to every rescue, shelter, and human being that is trying to save this breed from ignorant jerks that most likely find this commercial appealing.
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[Ha] Trent I think these people are too dense, Pit Bulls are dangerous, like a assault rifle gun. Smaller breeds are like bb guns. Obviously it makes sense to regulate something that is more dangerous. Guns on their own don't hurt people, it's the owners, that doesn't mean we should allow AK-47's to go unregulated and the same goes for powerful dogs. As for the commercial, it's a commercial the point is to have scary looking dogs guarding something and at the moment Pit Bulls are probably considered by the general public to be the scariest, most dangerous dogs. It's a simple way to get the message across. Some clown made a comment about a dachshund being the number one biting breed in America. How well would have that gone over in the commercial. It wouldn't make sense to the general public and any other breed would generate the same ridiculous comments from that breeds mindless fanatics. Sorry Pit Bulls are strong enough to kill and do. All your PR campaigns won't change that. A Pit Bull could save the Pope and invent a car, rescue kittens and save kids from a burning school but in the end people are still going to be scared of them, commercial or no commercial.
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[Craig] Oh, Trent - CDC = Center for Disease Control.
Also, Trent - you are sadly mistaken, and it appears you are yet another victim of news media sensationalism. I get the feeling you don't know much at all about dogs, or dog behaviorism in general.
Something to chew on for now:
http://tinyurl.com/5bp8u3
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[Craig] Not sure why that came through a few times... sorry folks, not my doing.
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[Michele] www.pitbull-chat.com
Trent: The forum might be overwhelming for a boy like you. Enter at your own risk.
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[Trent] Craig: I'm not a victim of anything. I've done MY OWN research. I'm not repeating any crap that the media has perpetuated. I have not once gone to the "CDC" website, so you were completely wrong.
I am just being realistic. You can keep making assumptive remarks about me, but that is all they are. I've stated the FACTS that are well known by both the HATERS and the LOVERS. A lot of my information has come directly from multiple PB rescue websites.
You wouldn't have to be fighting this good fight of yours if the pit bull and pit bull "type" breed wasn't so appealing to the white trash of America (and black). These dogs are capable of EASILY causing death and maiming, as are other dogs but these dogs are much better at it. The uneducated and irresponsible owners are to blame for your fight. The dumb fucks that let their Pit Bulls run free, or don't know how to take the special precautions to contain their dog(s) inside an adequately fenced yard... they are your worst enemy, not me.
One problem you face is that as a pit bull owner, you actually have to take EXTRA precautions to keep your dog under control (along with a few other breeds). Before you argue against that statement go look at a few bull dog rescue websites and read their list of recommendations. MOST other dogs do not require that amount of extra care.
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[Trent] Michele: You know as well as I do that it would be a waste of my time and everyone else on that website for me to come over there and try to convince thousands of pit bull fanatics to look at things from my point of view.
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[Michele] Trent: No one is asking you to try to convince anyone of anything. Everyone is entitled to their own thoughts and opinions. I try to promote this breed in a positive light. As a staff member on that forum, I'm merely extending an invitation to you and anyone else that might like to check it out.
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[Trent] Michele: I've been looking through the site. I even thought about joining since I see in the thread your com padres are calling me a "tool" for having my own opinion. And I also see that you yourself stated "I hope Trent comes over here..... " and I am sure it wasn't a friendly wish.
Rule number 3 in your regulations states "3. This is not a flame war site, so please do not engage in such. No distinction will be made between the instigator and those who merely participate." So I decided not to join your forum as that is all that would happen, and the major reason you "hoped" I would come over there is so that you and all your buddies could "flame" me. As a staff member you shouldn't be promoting things that are against your own policies.
Oh I am sure that you will respond saying "no, I just want you to come over so that we could gently educate you" (said in a silly female voice). I highly doubt that to be the case.
You just keep going about your day over there on pitbull-chat.com. If I came over there I would just get mauled by pit bull... fanatics.
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[Michele] As a staff member, I cannot allow anyone to "maul" you....HAHAHAHA...I dont have a "silly female voice". I have a New York City accent kind of voice.
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[Trent] Michele: Regardless, I think we both know what would happen if I came over there and voiced my opinion. That is like walking into the lions den. Your people (referring to Pit Bull lovers) are ready for a fight at the drop of a hat. So much so that ANY negative comments are met with blind rage and the simple truths are denied.
I'm simply standing up for reality. I've said it over and over. I am against BSL, I love Pit Bulls. I think they are great dogs. But they require special discipline from their owners in order to protect the public and also to protect your "right" to own one.
I will continue to lurk on your website though in search of more knowledge. There is no need for me to join though since I am not a pit bull owner, and the only purpose for me to join would be so that I could perform the duties of a punching bag.
Good luck in your fight. I wish that trashy people, irresponsible people, and people that promote dog fighting didn't see the pit bull as their dog of choice. They are your enemy, not me. Hopefully the AKC and UKC can become your "NRA" and help protect your rights.
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[Michele] Trent: fair enough. Just so you know, I don't own a pit bull either. I own a Chihuahua. And you are right. This breed is not for everyone. AND, in most cases, when a pit bull attacks a human, it's because of bad genetics. And you can thank the BYB's for that.
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[Trent] Here is a working link at this time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hafgAqTdJes
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[Fuzzy] omg shut up!! its a %*#!!ing commercial!!! get over it!!!
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[Owner of the River Boat] I can not believe that Verizon would allow such a horrendous commercial to go on the air! What were they thinking? Where have they been this last year with all that has been going on with Michael Idiot Vick? Those beautiful dogs made to look like they are vicious. Stupid!!!
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[Sara] Wow. This certainly has turned into a name-calling forum. I'm betting most people here found this site googling Verizon and pit bulls. And I believe most of us were looking to find some validation that we weren't the only ones appalled by this commercial. Thanks to all who posted contact addresses. Here's the reply I got from Verizon: ood afternoon and thank you for contacting Verizon Wireless through our website. My name is Adrienne, and I am sorry to hear that you have concerns regarding the recent advertisement. I am will be happy to assist you with your feedback regarding the television commercial.
I regret that you found our commercial disturbing or distasteful in any way. It was certainly not our intent to reflect a negative image with our advertisement.
We forward all comments to our Marketing Department for consideration when making future advertising decisions. We appreciate your feedback.
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[this is to trent] trent there are more recorded attacks by pit bulls because there ARE far more pit bulls in this world! you are posting a lot of bullshit that is not true....do you just like to stir things up? because you are like obama a flip flopper!!!you can't get your thoughts straight you love pits/ you think they are man eaters????? jerk!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[Carrie] Whoa. I found this site on 7/15 just trying to find out some info so I could contact Verizon about the disturbing ad. I ended up finding some contacts elsewhere but got no replies.
So I came back here tonight and WOW, lot's o' profane name-calling.
Crybaby, Trent and Ha, why did you visit this site? Why post?
I don't like to see dogs of any type chained up and alone - IN REALITY- , so was upset by the commercial. Maybe that's why many people vented here?
For example I know of a dog that was chained to the middle of the yard with no shelter and it was frozen to the ground in an ice storm. That is a lot different than a chain that is attached to a human accompanying a dog on a walk. Dogs are social animals.
So thanks to those providing some contact info - I'll try it. There really isn't anything that's "just a commercial." The point of advertising is to persuade you to purchase. This ad is revolting rather than persuasive to many. I think Verizon's other ads are funny.
"Sticks and stones may break my bones...but please don't throw sticks and stones..." -Gilligan!
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[Mary Anne] This commercial shows the mentality and exploiting of pit bulls. It takes a real jerk to make any dog mean. This is so disappointing to see with all the negative publicity about pit bulls.
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[Trent] this is to trent: I don't know what else to call you since this is the name you used.
I didn't post a single thing about the number of recorded Pit Bull "attacks". I only commented on DEATHS. You said "there ARE far more pit bulls in this world"... far more than what??
The only reference I made regarding "attacks" was in reference to Labrador Retrievers. As far as I know they are the dog with the most "attacks" or reported bites. Which makes total sense since it has been the number one dog registered in America for... like forever.
"you can't get your thoughts straight you love pits/ you think they are man eaters?????"... you nailed it right on the nose buddy. I love them but I am also not going to lie to myself about what they are capable of. Be honest with yourself and you'll do a much better job at fighting your fight.
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[Trent] Carrie: Sorry about all the unnecessary profanity. I didn't start it... :-)
I visited this site because a friend sent me the link. It is an interesting subject. Why did I post... same reason you did. I felt the urge to voice my opinion. Like it or not, I have that right to do so. This is a public forum and I am not doing anything wrong by speaking my mind.
You find this add "revolting", and I find it... a commercial with dogs in it.
It is a damn commercial people. It's not a personal attack on your breed. Verizon isn't involved with your plight. They didn't create this add in order to make your fight tougher. They needed tough acting dogs and they got them. I am totally sure that the anti's will use this commercial as evidence against how baaaaad pit bulls are. (heavy sarcasm)
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[PitBullOwner] Trent, your statistics, do, in fact, come from the CDC (Centers for Disease Control). The websites that you have been getting your information from, get their information from the CDC and they should be referencing that. Here are the links from the CDC that show the break down of bites according to "breed". You will notice that these are the same stats that you often reference.
http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/duip/biteprevention.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/duip/dogbreeds.pdf
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[Trent] PitBullOwner:
Can you provide another website that gives differing numbers?
I also used this website for some of my info on 2007 dog attacks. Seems fairly unbiased.
http://canineaggression.blogspot.com/
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[PitBullOwner] Trent, I strongly distrust anything coming from the HSUS and/or PETA (birds of a feather, imo)
http://www.arbreptiles.com/extremists.shtml
you might want to take a look here:
http://www.nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/historicCases.asp
http://www.atts.org (no bite stats, but lists temperment testing results by breed)
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[Yes] Ok so if you dog humpers know all the facts and stats about these dogs why are u crying over the commercial? It seems more like you guys are trying to prove to yourselves that this breed of dog is not a vicious man eating breed, but if you did not notice you guys are the ONLY ones that see this commercial this way. People already understand that its the owner that makes the dog the way it is. I see no negative publicity in this commercial just a couple of dogs guarding a phone and a few people crying over a commercial that dosent even say anything about pit bulls. If the commercial said All pit bulls kill people then i could understand why you guys are crying but "THIS" its retarded. You guys all need to get your genitals out your dogs mouths and stop trying make such a minor thing a huge issue. =]
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[Carrie] Hi Trent - I wasn't implying you nor others don't have a right to voice your opinions. I really was curious as to why you first came to the site and then why you posted.
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[K9Resqer] This horrendous commercial only adds fuel to the pit bull firestorm. It needs to be removed from the air, and a public apology presented, immediately. Please sign the petition to make this happen:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/make-verizon-accountable
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[Michele] Trent: thanks for your input on my forum. Appreciate it. And I hope you stick around and get to know everyone.
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[MAUREEN] It's appalling that in today's social climate, LG and Verizon would create an add so stereotypical and ignorant on TV. While the animal advocacy community works tirelessly to stop the chaining of dogs, Verizon uses chained dogs to sell a phone. Shame on you. Are you trying to sell these phones to thugs or idiots?
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[Puckhead] O.K. Trent, and Crybaby.
Let's get some facts straight - as you seem to like to quote them.
The Pittie may be the deadliest dog, but the two most often to bite in the US are the Labrador Retreiver and the German Shepherd. Probably because of their abundance. So what? Should I now claim that Labs are vicious?? Start a precident negatively affecting the breed?? Maybe we should take all of the labs and ban them from communities, and euthanize any found in shelters. That is what these kind of campaigns turn into, and what Pit Bulls are facing all accross the US. The Pit Bull wasn't even created to be a guard dog, it was created to bait bulls. So why picture it chained in a junkyard? Why not at least pick a true guard dog?
These people are upset because this breed of dog (who can't defend itself from people's stereotypes) is being once again maligned - that is the point, if you want to dig your own head out. And these stereotypes are causing serious detriment to the breed.
Verizon is just irresponsibly continuing these stereotypes, and in turn doing more harm to a breed that already has plenty of unearned bad press. These folks are calling them on it, and asking for the ad to be removed. I'll add my name to that list.
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[Skathock] 1) There are 26+ breeds and cross-breeds called 'pit bull'.
2) The true American Pit Bull Terrier makes a VERY BAD guard dog. They were bred to have little or no human aggression.
3) Statistics LIE and the CDC admits that their statistics are seriously flawed because they cannot verify the breed of the dog being reported for attacking.
4) Verizon and AllTel are both in need of a wake up call (Alltel=Doberman commercial)
5) NO DOG, REGARDLESS OF BREED SHOULD BE KEPT IN THAT SETTING OR BE PORTRAYED AS LIVING THE LIFE OF A 'JUNKYARD' DOG!
The people who agreed to place their dogs in this commercial are socially irresponsible. Verizon is choosing to feed the media hype in an effort to generate profit. It's sick, wrong and highly irresponsible.
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[Ellshaa] I think the commercial is stupid. I DO have a pit bull. The breed should not be regulated anymore than any other dog who has picked up a bad repustation because of the idiots out there. Who the heck can compare a pit to a gun?? My pit WOULD NEVER bite a person (even to protect me) ignorants should not comment about the breed unless they actually KNOW a TRUE pit bull's behaviour. I used to be assinine about the breed until I met one, and realized how stupid people are that perpetuate the madness and nonsense saying they are attack dogs. BTW Daschund's are actually the #1 dog biters. People report dogs with any sort of boxy head as a pit, but are, more often than not, wrong about the breed. Puckhead and all the others sticking up for the breed - we need more like US! The reason we see the commercial and are upset by it is because IT FEEDS INTO THE UNFAIR PORTRAYAL OF THE PIT BULL. I trust the labradors I
live with much less than my pit bull with children. Also - a CHAINED dog is MUCH different than a leashed dog. OBVIOUSLY!!!! A CHAINED dog could not protect himself from attack - idiot. A LEASHED dog is protected, by his owner, from harm. I also would not use Verizon - or any other company that promotes negativity about the breed - as a consumer that is my right. I'm not telling anyone else not to do so, or calling them names because they do. I used to be part of PETA, until I found out their stance on pits. How can an animal ACTIVIST group be against pit bulls, but NO OTHER animal, they're idiots.
Anyway, that's my beef and response to some of the good and bad comments. I think the people leaving bad comments are just IGNORANT of the breed, so pitty lovers just realize they are "children" and don't know any better! :) If they truly knew the breed, they would sing a different tune, and understand where we are coming from.
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Summary: A guy dares to go into a junkyard to get an LG Dare phone guarded by dogs.
